What do you all think about this article? If true, what does it mean for our school-based 20% projects?

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What do you all think about this article? If true, what does it mean for our school-based 20% projects?

http://qz.com/115831/googles-20-time-which-brought-you-gmail-and-adsense-is-now-as-good-as-dead/

16 comments from the original blog. Comments are closed now; the conversation moved to Bluesky.

  1. Bob Kelly

    For me, it doesn’t change anything as I’ve built it into the week and the students work for it.  

    The idea is that we’ll take the class somewhere different and we’ll go there organically and that will change the course of the class fundamentally into the future.

    I almost hope someday we work so hard and well that we can’t do it anymore, but in the classroom that might not be a good thing…

  2. Bob Kelly

    For me, it doesn’t change anything as I’ve built it into the week and the students work for it.  

    The idea is that we’ll take the class somewhere different and we’ll go there organically and that will change the course of the class fundamentally into the future.

    I almost hope someday we work so hard and well that we can’t do it anymore, but in the classroom that might not be a good thing…

  3. Bob Kelly

    For me, it doesn’t change anything as I’ve built it into the week and the students work for it.  

    The idea is that we’ll take the class somewhere different and we’ll go there organically and that will change the course of the class fundamentally into the future.

    I almost hope someday we work so hard and well that we can’t do it anymore, but in the classroom that might not be a good thing…

  4. Bob Kelly

    For me, it doesn’t change anything as I’ve built it into the week and the students work for it.  

    The idea is that we’ll take the class somewhere different and we’ll go there organically and that will change the course of the class fundamentally into the future.

    I almost hope someday we work so hard and well that we can’t do it anymore, but in the classroom that might not be a good thing…

  5. Sean J. O'Neil

    Make sure you read the follow up: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/ 

  6. Sean J. O'Neil

    Make sure you read the follow up: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/ 

  7. Sean J. O'Neil

    Make sure you read the follow up: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/ 

  8. Sean J. O'Neil

    Make sure you read the follow up: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/ 

  9. Bradley Lands

    Regardless of what Google ends up doing with their 20% time, I still think this concept should be built into the classroom.  Google is mostly about production.  School is mostly about learning. Allowing students to inquire and explore an independent study or project, with complete autonomy, is invaluable to me.   Students don’t get enough time to participate in meaningful learning opportunities on topics of their choice.  To be honest, I wish schools implemented a “100% time” policy and didn’t have to worry about standards, assessments, and accountability.  Where true inquiry would lead the learning for each day, and teachers would encourage, support and facilitate students in their journey.

  10. Bradley Lands

    Regardless of what Google ends up doing with their 20% time, I still think this concept should be built into the classroom.  Google is mostly about production.  School is mostly about learning. Allowing students to inquire and explore an independent study or project, with complete autonomy, is invaluable to me.   Students don’t get enough time to participate in meaningful learning opportunities on topics of their choice.  To be honest, I wish schools implemented a “100% time” policy and didn’t have to worry about standards, assessments, and accountability.  Where true inquiry would lead the learning for each day, and teachers would encourage, support and facilitate students in their journey.

  11. Bradley Lands

    Regardless of what Google ends up doing with their 20% time, I still think this concept should be built into the classroom.  Google is mostly about production.  School is mostly about learning. Allowing students to inquire and explore an independent study or project, with complete autonomy, is invaluable to me.   Students don’t get enough time to participate in meaningful learning opportunities on topics of their choice.  To be honest, I wish schools implemented a “100% time” policy and didn’t have to worry about standards, assessments, and accountability.  Where true inquiry would lead the learning for each day, and teachers would encourage, support and facilitate students in their journey.

  12. Bradley Lands

    Regardless of what Google ends up doing with their 20% time, I still think this concept should be built into the classroom.  Google is mostly about production.  School is mostly about learning. Allowing students to inquire and explore an independent study or project, with complete autonomy, is invaluable to me.   Students don’t get enough time to participate in meaningful learning opportunities on topics of their choice.  To be honest, I wish schools implemented a “100% time” policy and didn’t have to worry about standards, assessments, and accountability.  Where true inquiry would lead the learning for each day, and teachers would encourage, support and facilitate students in their journey.

  13. David Theriault

    Did you read this reply article?: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/

    To me the key part is this: “However, I would agree that it is “as good as dead”. What killed 20% time? Stack ranking.

    +

    Stack ranking is a policy—popularized by former GE CEO Jack Welch—of ranking employees by various metrics and firing the bottom 20%. Google doesn’t enact exactly this policy, and is more focused on helping its bottom 20% improve, but the point is that such policies of measurement don’t exactly lead to intangibles like incubating new initiatives or products.

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    Google’s [performance] management is basically an elaborate game where using 20% time is a losing move.”

    If your school, district, state or country puts a hard premium on test scores then 20% time is going to be difficult. It’s a matter of priorities. Is innovation and creation a priority or is increasing your production aka test scores by 5% your priority.   #20time   #geniushour  

  14. David Theriault

    Did you read this reply article?: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/

    To me the key part is this: “However, I would agree that it is “as good as dead”. What killed 20% time? Stack ranking.

    +

    Stack ranking is a policy—popularized by former GE CEO Jack Welch—of ranking employees by various metrics and firing the bottom 20%. Google doesn’t enact exactly this policy, and is more focused on helping its bottom 20% improve, but the point is that such policies of measurement don’t exactly lead to intangibles like incubating new initiatives or products.

    +

    Google’s [performance] management is basically an elaborate game where using 20% time is a losing move.”

    If your school, district, state or country puts a hard premium on test scores then 20% time is going to be difficult. It’s a matter of priorities. Is innovation and creation a priority or is increasing your production aka test scores by 5% your priority.   #20time   #geniushour  

  15. David Theriault

    Did you read this reply article?: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/

    To me the key part is this: “However, I would agree that it is “as good as dead”. What killed 20% time? Stack ranking.

    +

    Stack ranking is a policy—popularized by former GE CEO Jack Welch—of ranking employees by various metrics and firing the bottom 20%. Google doesn’t enact exactly this policy, and is more focused on helping its bottom 20% improve, but the point is that such policies of measurement don’t exactly lead to intangibles like incubating new initiatives or products.

    +

    Google’s [performance] management is basically an elaborate game where using 20% time is a losing move.”

    If your school, district, state or country puts a hard premium on test scores then 20% time is going to be difficult. It’s a matter of priorities. Is innovation and creation a priority or is increasing your production aka test scores by 5% your priority.   #20time   #geniushour  

  16. David Theriault

    Did you read this reply article?: http://qz.com/116196/google-engineers-insist-20-time-is-not-dead-its-just-turned-into-120-time/

    To me the key part is this: “However, I would agree that it is “as good as dead”. What killed 20% time? Stack ranking.

    +

    Stack ranking is a policy—popularized by former GE CEO Jack Welch—of ranking employees by various metrics and firing the bottom 20%. Google doesn’t enact exactly this policy, and is more focused on helping its bottom 20% improve, but the point is that such policies of measurement don’t exactly lead to intangibles like incubating new initiatives or products.

    +

    Google’s [performance] management is basically an elaborate game where using 20% time is a losing move.”

    If your school, district, state or country puts a hard premium on test scores then 20% time is going to be difficult. It’s a matter of priorities. Is innovation and creation a priority or is increasing your production aka test scores by 5% your priority.   #20time   #geniushour  

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