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		<title>By: Ben Wilkoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Wilkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t know how I feel about barn-raising a shoddy barn. I don&#039;trnknow how I feel about being intentionally unhelpful so that others canrnfigure it out for themselves. It may be a good way to ask others to help,rnbut it seems quite backhanded. I would rather everyone bring their best tornthe table and create something truly great.rnrnI would also make the case that everything is broken if you look at itrnright. Everything can be made better or be disrupted by another idea that isrndivergent and overwhelmingly better. The only way that we can get others torntruly build what is possible is to start them far enough along so that theyrndon&#039;t have to make all of the same mistakes we did. They should be makingrndifferent mistakes, better mistakes in their bid to become better than us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t know how I feel about barn-raising a shoddy barn. I don&#8217;trnknow how I feel about being intentionally unhelpful so that others canrnfigure it out for themselves. It may be a good way to ask others to help,rnbut it seems quite backhanded. I would rather everyone bring their best tornthe table and create something truly great.rnrnI would also make the case that everything is broken if you look at itrnright. Everything can be made better or be disrupted by another idea that isrndivergent and overwhelmingly better. The only way that we can get others torntruly build what is possible is to start them far enough along so that theyrndon&#8217;t have to make all of the same mistakes we did. They should be makingrndifferent mistakes, better mistakes in their bid to become better than us.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wilkoff</title>
		<link>http://learningischange.com/2010/03/11/question-70-of-365-how-far-will-serious-take-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Wilkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t know how I feel about barn-raising a shoddy barn. I don&#039;t&lt;br&gt;know how I feel about being intentionally unhelpful so that others can&lt;br&gt;figure it out for themselves. It may be a good way to ask others to help,&lt;br&gt;but it seems quite backhanded. I would rather everyone bring their best to&lt;br&gt;the table and create something truly great.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I would also make the case that everything is broken if you look at it&lt;br&gt;right. Everything can be made better or be disrupted by another idea that is&lt;br&gt;divergent and overwhelmingly better. The only way that we can get others to&lt;br&gt;truly build what is possible is to start them far enough along so that they&lt;br&gt;don&#039;t have to make all of the same mistakes we did. They should be making&lt;br&gt;different mistakes, better mistakes in their bid to become better than us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#39;t know how I feel about barn-raising a shoddy barn. I don&#39;t<br />know how I feel about being intentionally unhelpful so that others can<br />figure it out for themselves. It may be a good way to ask others to help,<br />but it seems quite backhanded. I would rather everyone bring their best to<br />the table and create something truly great.</p>
<p>I would also make the case that everything is broken if you look at it<br />right. Everything can be made better or be disrupted by another idea that is<br />divergent and overwhelmingly better. The only way that we can get others to<br />truly build what is possible is to start them far enough along so that they<br />don&#39;t have to make all of the same mistakes we did. They should be making<br />different mistakes, better mistakes in their bid to become better than us.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Chase</title>
		<link>http://learningischange.com/2010/03/11/question-70-of-365-how-far-will-serious-take-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1703</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 19:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Telling our stories and sharing experiences are the easiest ways to infect&lt;br&gt;with passion.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What do you think about the idea of purposely building something broken as&lt;br&gt;the best way to incite others to contribute. I like the humility implied&lt;br&gt;there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Telling our stories and sharing experiences are the easiest ways to infect<br />with passion.</p>
<p>What do you think about the idea of purposely building something broken as<br />the best way to incite others to contribute. I like the humility implied<br />there.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Wilkoff</title>
		<link>http://learningischange.com/2010/03/11/question-70-of-365-how-far-will-serious-take-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1686</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Wilkoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:55:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how this project of yours keeps on bearing fantastic conversations&lt;br&gt;with kids. If I were in your shoes, I would pretty much want to focus on&lt;br&gt;this project and pretty much nothing else. Being able to convey the initial&lt;br&gt;spark of passion and telling your own version of an origin story is hugely&lt;br&gt;important to getting people on board, and showing just how that happened is&lt;br&gt;even better. Creating that experience of the spark goes further.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think that the OKGO video has a huge amount of that element. In it, I want&lt;br&gt;to know just what they were thinking at every step of the process. I&lt;br&gt;experience the experimentation that it must have taken (I heard an interview&lt;br&gt;that said it took about 60 takes once they had the whole machine all set&lt;br&gt;up... and hundreds more to get the marbles and dominoes right). I experience&lt;br&gt;who the creators of the machine are by watching the machine in action.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;We all know the dominoes and the Rube Goldberg machines within our own&lt;br&gt;passions. If we are reflective enough, we can look back and see just what&lt;br&gt;led to the decisions we made and passions that we have cultivated. We have&lt;br&gt;to create the environments for other people&#039;s dominoes to fall. We have to&lt;br&gt;show our passion and allow others to take part in it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I just think we have to design it better so that our passion doesn&#039;t seem&lt;br&gt;like a carefully crafted machine that doesn&#039;t need their help. If we do not&lt;br&gt;require others for our projects, if we do not incite others to create or&lt;br&gt;comment or share, we are not doing it right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how this project of yours keeps on bearing fantastic conversations<br />with kids. If I were in your shoes, I would pretty much want to focus on<br />this project and pretty much nothing else. Being able to convey the initial<br />spark of passion and telling your own version of an origin story is hugely<br />important to getting people on board, and showing just how that happened is<br />even better. Creating that experience of the spark goes further.</p>
<p>I think that the OKGO video has a huge amount of that element. In it, I want<br />to know just what they were thinking at every step of the process. I<br />experience the experimentation that it must have taken (I heard an interview<br />that said it took about 60 takes once they had the whole machine all set<br />up&#8230; and hundreds more to get the marbles and dominoes right). I experience<br />who the creators of the machine are by watching the machine in action.</p>
<p>We all know the dominoes and the Rube Goldberg machines within our own<br />passions. If we are reflective enough, we can look back and see just what<br />led to the decisions we made and passions that we have cultivated. We have<br />to create the environments for other people&#39;s dominoes to fall. We have to<br />show our passion and allow others to take part in it.</p>
<p>I just think we have to design it better so that our passion doesn&#39;t seem<br />like a carefully crafted machine that doesn&#39;t need their help. If we do not<br />require others for our projects, if we do not incite others to create or<br />comment or share, we are not doing it right.</p>
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		<title>By: Zac Chase</title>
		<link>http://learningischange.com/2010/03/11/question-70-of-365-how-far-will-serious-take-us/comment-page-1/#comment-1682</link>
		<dc:creator>Zac Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 01:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking with a group of my G11 students today. They have to make a pitch tomorrow and I&#039;d shut down one of their ideas for playing to emotion and ignoring intellect. They processed my veto and came looking for me. &quot;What do we do then? How do we get people&#039;s attention?&quot; They&#039;d been told in their digital video class that they need to get their audience&#039;s attention in the opening if they had any hope of carrying them through to the end. Without their emotional argument, they felt they didn&#039;t have anything.&lt;br&gt;Now, each of the four students in this group had been working on a problem or issue they&#039;d identified as important and worthy of change. They&#039;ve invested in this process and stuck with it. The problems were drafted and selected by each member of the group. Somewhere, at some level, they are passionate about their individual topics and the umbrella topic under which they are now working.&lt;br&gt;My advice was simple. I told them to think of the piece that first sparked their interest in their respective topics and think of the passion they felt about solving that issue. Whatever sparked that, that&#039;s what they need to communicate to get their peers on board. I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;m write about that.&lt;br&gt;OkGo&#039;s video is a success for all of the viral reasons, but it&#039;s also a success because this is a group of guys who are passionate about what they do. The video wouldn&#039;t work (likely wouldn&#039;t exist) without passion.&lt;br&gt;You&#039;ve written about passion and the importance of connecting with people who share your passions.&lt;br&gt;I think the spreading of these ideas comes from an innate urge to share our passions.&lt;br&gt;As for the idea that we are them, yes, yes, a thousand times yes.&lt;br&gt;Packaging and sharing the ideas with which we play passionately is a valuable and contagious act.&lt;br&gt;sweet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking with a group of my G11 students today. They have to make a pitch tomorrow and I&#39;d shut down one of their ideas for playing to emotion and ignoring intellect. They processed my veto and came looking for me. &#8220;What do we do then? How do we get people&#39;s attention?&#8221; They&#39;d been told in their digital video class that they need to get their audience&#39;s attention in the opening if they had any hope of carrying them through to the end. Without their emotional argument, they felt they didn&#39;t have anything.<br />Now, each of the four students in this group had been working on a problem or issue they&#39;d identified as important and worthy of change. They&#39;ve invested in this process and stuck with it. The problems were drafted and selected by each member of the group. Somewhere, at some level, they are passionate about their individual topics and the umbrella topic under which they are now working.<br />My advice was simple. I told them to think of the piece that first sparked their interest in their respective topics and think of the passion they felt about solving that issue. Whatever sparked that, that&#39;s what they need to communicate to get their peers on board. I&#39;m pretty sure I&#39;m write about that.<br />OkGo&#39;s video is a success for all of the viral reasons, but it&#39;s also a success because this is a group of guys who are passionate about what they do. The video wouldn&#39;t work (likely wouldn&#39;t exist) without passion.<br />You&#39;ve written about passion and the importance of connecting with people who share your passions.<br />I think the spreading of these ideas comes from an innate urge to share our passions.<br />As for the idea that we are them, yes, yes, a thousand times yes.<br />Packaging and sharing the ideas with which we play passionately is a valuable and contagious act.<br />sweet</p>
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