Ben:

Good podcast-- A couple of thoughts. Web 2.0 ideas ARE novel for lots of folks, including employees of innovative companies like Apple. It's great to hear you're sharing innovation and new visions for learning with many, including some outside the "traditional" classroom. I think Apple has historically and continues to a large extent be oriented toward client-based software use and media production. Web-based media production, or even web-based productivity tool use, is really not something I've seen Apple promote or necessarily have a vision for as a company. They certainly support innnovation and innovative uses of technology, but they don't have any web 2.0 tools or services out there as far as I know... So I wouldn't be too hard on the Apple employee you had in your classroom... For people not "plugged-in" to the edublogosphere (which is the vast majority of folks) I am sure seeing a classroom lesson like the one you taught and described would be a surprise. That is why your role in the classroom is pivotal, and why it is so wonderful you can share your thoughts like you did in this podcast and solicit feedback and input.

I resonate with your point that "regurgitations of the past" are what we end up hearing the most from educational leaders who lack vision for teaching in truly engaging (rather than enthralling) ways with new technologies. We DO need leaders who can articulate this vision of new pedagogies effectively-- and every school needs those people. I think traditonally we look for top-down reforms and "answers" to problems.... but in the case of educational reform, I don't think that's the way it is happening or will happen in the future. Good leadership matters... and that doesn't just mean leaders who have positional authority. There is a book titled "And The Choir Began to Sing" that deals with this idea, that the authentic as well as most effective leaders are often NOT the ones who have the title or position-- I haven't read that book, just heard about it. Sounds a lot like what you're describing here.

I applaud you for being willing to step up and attempt to articulate this vision for your local community and at a broader level. I also share that desire. I think one of the most important things we can each do in our contexts to move this agenda of school change forward is to regularly help students CREATE media and COLLABORATE with others. The more conversations our parents, administrators, classroom visitors, and others have about this digitally engaged model of learning, the more I think we'll advance the agenda. I agree that "the agenda" needs to be better defined, however. Too many people still think of education as filling a pail, and all of us remain limited (to varying degrees) by our own lenses of traditional educational experience. Providing others with effective and engaging blended learning experiences is key. But publishing student work safely for interactive feedback on the global stage is the #1 best thing we can do, along with regularly collaborating with other learners.

Thanks for sharing these ideas Ben! I'm delighted to have found your blog and podcast, thanks to Miguel Guhlin's link to your Wordpress plugins recently. I've subscribed to both.

Here's to the revolution! We're on our way. Lots of educational reformers have gone before us, but none of them had the tools we have at our disposal to communicate, organize, advocate, amplify, celebrate, and struggle against the reactionary forces which WILL continue to oppose the cause of constructive change. It's not inevitable that things will change, but I think we have a better chance of seeing large scale changes in the predominant educational paradigm in our own communities, around our nation, and even around the world than others have who have gone before us.

Blended learning. I'll have a "grande" cup please, served piping hot-- and let's share it with as many people as we can. It's not kool-aide, and it's not easy to make, but it IS the best thing any of us could hope for as educators and parents when it comes to an outstanding context for real learning, which isn't fake or short-lived.

I look forward to continuing to envision and eventually articulate in more discrete terms what that cup of blended learning looks, feels, and tastes like! I know it's a heck of a lot better tasting than the cup 'o joe being served up with a hefty portion of whipped fear topping in many U.S. classrooms today.

Ben--this give me so much to think about and my head hurts. I am very much interested in school reform and I do believe it is going to take the leadership from the people like you in the classroom. I have been out of the classroom for six months and I miss it. However, in my tech specialist position, I have had time to learn so much that I did not have time to do as a classroom teacher. I am enrolled in a graduate program online, but I have learned more from my PLN than I have in the graduate program. How do we move teachers to the place that you are in the classroom? How do we show teachers the benefits?

How can anyone have vision for what one has not seen? This seems to be the decisive stumbling block for most in education. They want a vision for what they have already seen. Yet this is precisely what is required - a vision for that which no one has seen. It's evident that we are unable to see the future. We must back up and look at the foundational skills required to meet the future. Those have been delineated elsewhere.
I also think we here regurgitations of the past, precisely because it is the safe known, that which we know, that for which we have a familiar vision. The paradigm shift is grass-roots at this point. I think rather than the school admins we need to next focus on the forgotten stakeholders in education - the community businesses. They are the ones who will benefit from well educated citizenry. They have a vested interest in the outcome of education's vision.
Once we have the students, the community (and that includes parents), we need to focus on politicians. The admins are only fulfilling the laws. First we the people (sound familiar?) need to get those laws changed. Then the admin level educators will follow the crowd. That is what they do know.

Bill:
Thanks so much for commenting on the podcast. I really enjoy being in the classroom, but I know that it is hard to wear so many hats. Although we need to have visionary teachers in the classroom, your point about a viable PLN is well put. If all of the stakeholders in education had access to a robust learning network, they would be better able to articulate their vision for the future. It would require less single visionaries if more people were plugging into such a network.

Lisa:
I like the way that you have described the movement toward change in our schools as grass roots, but let's take the metaphor a little further. Who are those roots? The visionary teachers? Should they really be the ones who make the appeal to the community, to business? Surely there is a group of interested parties that is not just made up of people who are so entrenched in the day-to-day classroom that they don't have the ability to make that appeal. I think that the vision needs to reach beyond the early adopters, beyond grass roots (which is what you are advocating for). The way to accomplish that is by establishing a clear voice (not necessarily one voice, but a clear point of entry for all of the uninitiated educators, administrators, business people and community members) coming from the edublogosphere. I don't see that happening until we agree to a set of expectations or to a common vision (not the same vision, but a common vision) for our work. What do you think?